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Elizabeth
I’m not going to go on a lot about this, but I was very pleased to realize that what are the chances of learning about your family’s interest in my disability. And I was wondering if your daughter’s dissertation would be available to me so I could learn more.
Dr. Eleanor
Elizabeth, I think you would learn a great deal if you emailed Marvin. Marvin is an expert on fibromyalgia.
Elizabeth
Okay, I’ll do that.
Dr. Eleanor
His hundred patients that Dyan used in her study.
Elizabeth
So, I’ll get that email address from you later. Or now.
Dr. Eleanor
Marvin’s phone number and email address
(310) 266-3050 | mportner@portnermedical.com
Elizabeth
Thank you very much.
Charlotte
Hi. I had a very interesting thing that happened. My boyfriend is a sports coach, and we work a lot with strength training, with sandbags, and stuff like that, and I really like doing it. But the past year, I was struggling with every time other people were also in the gym. I would pick up on their emotions and their feelings and I would not be able to put my full self in the exercise that I wanted to do. And now, these past few weeks, I have been focusing on the fact that I don’t need to put my soul into everything or give it to everyone.
I was really focusing on this; this is my time for myself and my body, and I am allowed to focus only on myself. And I feel a lot stronger. And I realized earlier this week, I was doing the training, picking up a really heavy sandbag, and I realized, like, I don’t have to share my energy or give it away to other people because there is enough energy and they can all tap into it. And that was a really nice realization, and I was playing with it, like, is it the Physical World that I was integrating into the Spiritual or the Mental? Or….
Dr. Eleanor
What was your process in doing it that will tell us what World?
Charlotte
It was how I felt. It starts from the Mental and Emotional World where I feel someone is getting tired or getting afraid to fail at an exercise. I would go stand closer to them and give them my energy to be like, come on, you can do this. But it would be at the cost of my own energy and my own focus for my body.
Dr. Eleanor
What needs to happen for you to stay anchored in your energy at the same time you’re tuning in and helping another person?
Charlotte
I think that’s what I’m trying to figure out, because now I can do only one of both. I think.
Dr. Eleanor
What if you can do both simultaneously without contaminating each other?
Charlotte
Yeah, I would love that.
Dr. Eleanor
So, think about the fact that consciousness exists in Four Worlds all the time. There’s never a time that we’re not in Four Worlds. As we move from the base of ourselves up the Tree of Life in the process of individuation, as Jung called it, the tasks become more challenging, and the nuances between the Worlds become more subtle. So, when you are fully integrating the World, it’s seamless.
One of the most significant issues in the evolution of consciousness along the path to self-actualization comes when we hold on to past ideas and conceptualizations. And if we think about the symbolism of the tarot cards, the Tower Card, where everything is being destroyed, is what happens along the path of probation or trial. And what happens is that you have to let go of old concepts and constructs that no longer serve you. So, the one you’re letting go of, Charlotte if I’m hearing you correctly, is the misperception that if you’re being empathic and tuned into another person, it takes your energy away from yourself?
Charlotte
Yeah, correctly. The Tarot Card you mentioned. I read your article on the Tarot. Which Gate was the Tower again? Do you know by heart, or can I look it up? Otherwise, no.
Dr. Eleanor
I don’t remember in my layout. But over the weekend, Cindy and I laid out the self-center in accord with the Tarot Cards and their Path of Intelligence because that’s something I’m adding when I read a chart.
Charlotte
I like it.
Dr. Eleanor
And I believe you have the 2/14, is that correct?
Charlotte
I have the 2, but I don’t have the 14. But I do have all the gates of the G center and which Channels the 5/15, the 10/57, and the 25/51.
Dr. Eleanor
All of those are I’ve delineated with the Paths of Intelligence. Most people in the webinar are not design people, so they don’t know the body graph. So, it would just be confusing to share those PowerPoints. But if you want to talk to me later today after the webinar, I can share that with you.
Charlotte
I would love that. Thank you very much.
Dr. Eleanor
In the body map, 2/14 is a Channel—the Trial/Probation Channel. It’s also Key 14. The important thing for all of you to learn is that you can’t hold on to old belief systems and expect yourself to transform. You need to look at the limiting beliefs that are keeping you stuck. So, if any of you want to take a few minutes and get in touch with some limiting beliefs, we could work with those. Does anyone know your limiting beliefs?
Kathryn
Yes. There’s something wrong with me. I’m not good enough. Not lovable. Bringing the basics, I think, even some very deep stuff about abandonment.
Dr. Eleanor
Okay, how are you changing those thought forms? Remember, those thought forms came to you in the Mental World, and you took them as though they were more powerful than your spiritual knowing about who you were.
Kathryn
I have not been giving them enough attention recently. Also, I’d like to say that I’ve been working with whom I call my spiritual counselor, and I’ve had a session with the creator through her on these items. So, as far as applying them to the Four Worlds, I’ve not been very diligent about it, I’m still learning of a lot of other things flying around in my life, and there was an opportunity about two or three times since last week, I was able to settle down enough to ask myself about the Four Worlds and where I was. So that’s about the gist of it right now.
Dr. Eleanor
In terms of reprogramming the messages you received, take all of the ones you mentioned and transform them into statements of empowerment. Then, read them out loud every single day. Okay. And if you want, you could record them and play them for yourself.
Kathryn
Okay. So, I’m going to kind of reiterate what you said. I didn’t get it all. So, reprogram this and make a reprogramming statement. And then what was the next suggestion with that?
Dr. Eleanor
To record them.
Kathryn
Okay. I don’t have a way of recording other than on my phone. I can do that voice memo.
Dr. Eleanor
Then, play it for yourself and listen to those statements for at least ten minutes a day. Okay.
Kathryn
For the limiting beliefs daily, what’s between my ears gets really loud a lot.
Dr. Eleanor
When it gets loud, say to it. You’re talking over me. Shhh quiet. Let me hear what you want me to really hear, and then change what you’re saying to be a statement of empowerment. You have a choice, and you have control, so you need to claim it. Does that make sense to you, Kathryn?
Kathryn Yes. So, physically, I want to write all this down and make certain that I get it, and yet I don’t get all the words then.
Dr. Eleanor
But there is a recording that you can go back to, and the transcript will also be available for you to reread.
Kathryn
Okay. I haven’t gone to any of that as yet. Just no excuses.
Dr. Eleanor
Kathryn, if you want to heal, you need to be a little bit disciplined. So, make yourself a schedule for when you do your empowerment work. Usually, the last thing we do, the last person we put on our list of caring is ourselves. And that needs to change for everybody. You need to come first in terms of your self-care because nobody can take care of you except yourself. Certainly, on a spiritual level, that holds true. On a physical and mental level, yeah, people can do things for you, but they’re not going to hold when you’re off by yourself and have to do things for yourself, including turning off your monkey mind that is repeating like a parrot, things you heard from your childhood.
Dr. Marvin
Well, the thing that has to happen and the thing that happens for me, she’s smiling, is to change what Eleanor just described is one way to do it. What I do is I always try to connect to spirit. So, when I connect to spirit, all that other stuff sort of goes away, and I’m just focusing on the spirit. You know, in the Bible, it says, look to God, look to Jesus, look to know, receive the light.
Basically, anytime you can, by your own means and in your own system, connect to the spiritual aspect of the 4 Worlds and the unifying field above, all that other stuff is going to go away because the light dispels the darkness. But you can’t tell the darkness to go away as easily as, in my experience, you can bring in light. If you bring in light, the darkness goes away.
Dr. Eleanor
But when you bring in light, you also see and hear and know what’s in the way. And so you take your empowerment within yourself to control what it is you let into that area of light. Once you have the light, you can get rid of the darkness.
Kathryn
Sounds simple.
Dr. Eleanor
It is simple. Don’t make it complicated. It’s simple. Energetically simple, mentally hard.
Kathryn
Yeah, that’s been my pattern to make things complicated.
Dr. Eleanor
Thank you for sharing.
Dr. Marvin
You can never fix something on the same level or in the same World. You need to bring something more powerful. Eleanor mentioned before letting go of the old. The picture that came into my mind was in one of the Raiders of the Lost Ark, I think. Anyway, where Harrison Ford must step into the void. He must step, and it looks like he’s going to fall and drop, but he has to trust enough. And when he steps, there’s a pathway across the void. I don’t know if any of you remember that scene. It’s a very potent scene.
Dr. Eleanor
What comes to mind for me when Marvin says that is a description in a book called Brothers of the Third Degree by Will Garver, which is an esoteric novel, and it’s about initiation, and the main character is an initiate. Part of the task is to cross the River Styx. And when you’re going through an initiation, how do you know that you’re going to get across the river with all of the demons in it? And as he was going in the boat and not sure if he was on the right course, and there’s all this stuff that’s coming in, what he said to himself was, “I’ve made the right choice each step of my path. So, I need to trust that the next step I take will be leading me where I need to be.
Of course, he did cross to the other side. When he got to the other side, he was exposed to great abundance. The thought came to him, “There’s all this abundance. What about all the people who are struggling?” The answer was that when you have abundance for yourself, so much abundance that it overflows, that’s when you can be generous of heart, spirit, and soul.
Kathryn
Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity for me to be transparent and real. Thank you.
Dr. Eleanor
Everyone in this room is invited to be.
Charlotte
Yes. Thank you. I really like the story you just told. And it brings something up that I have been aware of, that I struggle with the abundance part. I really feel guided, and I trust a lot. And I often have these moments of abundance. But then due to my environment, I have always felt guilty of receiving abundance. Like, “Oh, I’m having abundance. And they’re not. They’re struggling.” So, in a way, I think I’ve been limiting my own abundance to not make other people jealous or feel like, why does she get it? And why am I not getting it?
Dr. Eleanor
And what would you like to have happen?
Charlotte
I can just accept it and know that everyone has the right to the same amount of abundance, and I don’t have to feel guilty when I receive it and others don’t, because…
Dr. Eleanor
And what do you know about abundance?
Charlotte
It’s infinite. And it comes to you when you trust, not when you’re greedy or longing for it. When you’re just in alignment with your pure self and you walk your path, you get supported.
Dr. Eleanor
So, you get supported. And what do you know about support?
Charlotte
It comes around in the smallest things. For me, like today, abundance was waking up, the sun was shining, and I got to put my laundry to dry out in the sun, in the wind in the backyard. And I’m like, this, for me, is abundance. It makes me happy. It’s the thing I notice a lot of people think abundance is in earning a lot of money, and they go do a job they don’t like, but they’re making a lot of money, and they think that’s abundance. And it can be that it’s that for them.
But for me, abundance means feeling free in every situation you enter and knowing that you always have the choice to choose how you deal with it and how you proceed with it. Then, you will be supported, and you will have exactly what you need, even though you think you need it sometimes.
Dr. Eleanor
And when you make choices that align with yourself and lead to abundance, whose abundance is that abundance?
Charlotte
The first thing I would like to say is that it’s abundance for the entire World because it makes me happy, and I radiate it out there. I hope some people get to enjoy it as well. I don’t know.
Dr. Eleanor
So then, where does the resistance to abundance come from?
Charlotte
I’ve had this really intense realization that I am one person in my entire family who walked away from not being happy and struggling with everything. And I put a lot of work into it. But there’s oftentimes this… For a long time, I wanted to pull them with me. And I had this meditation where I – It was a really weird meditation where I just saw myself standing somewhere in nature, and behind me, everything was burning, and I was crying, and I was like, I saved myself, but I couldn’t save them. So, I don’t know. Is it a karmic thing that I’m carrying with me? Is it a reflection on escaping the karmic patterns of my family? But there’s this feeling like I made it, but I had to leave them behind, or I couldn’t save them.
Dr. Eleanor
So, can you have abundance if your family does not feel it?
Charlotte
Yes. I’m learning now that I can without feeling guilty for it or wanting to.
Dr. Eleanor
Each of us is an independent entity, but we’re not, right? Connected to something beyond words. And you are an independent energy body, and that’s all you are. And whatever meaning you give to yourself and your World is something that you’ve constructed and imposed upon yourself from your mind. But when you meditate, and you are gone, you’re gone. And yet, it’s in that state that so much abundance happens. So, I think you have a little bit of work to do in separating your sense of self from how it may be tied up with the sense of self from your karmic relatives.
Charlotte
I’m working on that one, yeah. Thank you.
Dr. Marvin
So, let me add something that just came into my mind. When I was in India, Osho told a very profound Buddha story, which sort of relates to what you were talking about, Charlotte. I’m in an altered state here, folks. In case you haven’t noticed, just hearing what you said a few minutes ago put me in an altered state.
So, when Buddha died and went to heaven, there were flowers and angels and high beings and music there, welcoming him. But he chose not to go into heaven. He chose to stand outside and wait until everybody else arrived, and then he would go into heaven.
It’s a beautiful story. It’s what the Buddha can do, or an enlightened being can choose to do, or a high-level being, but it’s not necessarily what we have to do. The hardest part of my life was when I came back from India, and I was, in a sense, a new person. The old me had died, and a new person came, and my family did not know me. They didn’t know me. They didn’t want to relate to that new person, and they didn’t fully understand it. And it took a number of years with some coaching from, you know who to allow me to release the attachment to my new family so that I could live my new life. And that was very painful and difficult. But it allowed me to move to a higher level where I can be of more value to myself and to others.
Charlotte
Thank you. That really resonates.
Maria
Hi. First, I want to thank you because what’s going on today is really powerful. I want to share what’s going on with me. I’m very sick right now because I’m killing myself. I cannot handle what’s going on. It’s a lot of fear for me. But what Marvin especially says today makes everything clear to me.
On Saturday, it is my birthday, and I have been planning that for a year. So, I’m going on a trip to cruise. And I got very sick. Right now, I don’t know if I can make it, but I really want to make it. And I’m struggling. And for me, it’s like this birthday: I’m going to be 50.
It’s like initiation into something and how I planned it. It’s like I’m going to go to see newly discovered ruins, minor ruins. And they’re going to end up in the underground river. And Sonora, my people believe that interest in the underworld gives you a rebirth. So that’s what I was planning to do. In our private sessions, you told me that I needed to rewrite my scenario and that it was not working for me. I have to give rebirth to myself. Right now, I think this is what’s going on means resistance to that. But right now, it’s like getting clear to me and what’s going on. And I would like to thank you for that
Dr. Eleanor
How are you sick, Maria? Physically sick? Emotionally?
Maria
No, physically. I think I have flu or something like that. I have Flu or something. Something like that. I got sick, like coughing, sneezing, regular stuff.
Dr. Eleanor
Can you see the illness as a cleansing? Maybe the work you’ve been doing and the debris in your physical aura are cleansing out.
Maria
I don’t look at that that way. But maybe it’s like if you want to be born, you have to go for pain. Maybe that’s part of it. I don’t know.
Dr. Eleanor
And your trip starts when?
Maria
Saturday.
Dr. Eleanor
Saturday. So, you only have two days to heal. And how many days have you been sick?
Maria
Two days before the day.
Dr. Eleanor
Okay, so do you have any suggestions?
Dr. Marvin
Do you have a fever?
Maria
It’s not that high already, but I still have some, yeah.
Dr. Marvin
Are you coughing up anything that has any color?
Maria
No, I’m coughing. Nothing comes out.
Dr. Marvin
So basically, and this applies to everybody, I would say. If you have a respiratory infection, the fever proves it’s an infection. Sometimes, there’s no fever. It could be an allergy because it’s spring, depending on where you are.
So, increasing the vitamin D to very high levels, like 50,000 international, 50,000 units of vitamin D. Sort of like you would treat COVID, which is a cold virus. COVID is a cold virus. The only reason it was new is because it was modified by the Chinese and other people to make it stronger. So, increased vitamin D and increased potassium and NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine), you could look that up and get that. And quercetin, and those things could help you heal in two days.
Zinc could be 100 or 200 milligrams. That’s a lot, but temporarily, it’s fine. Then there’s vitamin C three times a day, NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine), quercetin, and lots of fluids.
Maria
All right, thank you.
Dr. Eleanor
Take those extra supplements to support your immune system. Take your hand and just hold each finger in sequence like this. That’s a technique called Jin Shin Jyutsu. All the fingers, if you hold each finger, ultimately you can heal. So, you want to be sending healing energy to your body. And as you’re holding your fingers, you’re sending healing energy.
Dr. Marvin
One more hand technique. Look at this technique. You hold it for a few minutes, and then you go to the next one. You’re getting all the acupuncture meridians. So that’s one way because all the energy points end up in the hand. So, we heal with our hands. Right. So, you can do this. It’s sort of like you start with a thumb, and then all the fingers turn like this, sort of.
And you’re activating the same meridians. But you’re doing it by physical action. And this feels good, especially if your hands feel a little stiff or hold it out like this and do it.
Maria
Okay, I’ll try. I take those vitamins in high doses every day or just once.
Dr. Marvin
No, you take them every day. Every day until you’re better. If you’re only four days in, if you’d have started on day one, you’d already be better. So now it may take a day or two.
Dr. Eleanor
But the idea is for you to heal before your trip.
Dr. Marvin
And you hearing you talk, Maria, you have the power to do that if you want. You have to be clear that you really want to go on the trip and that it’s okay for you to go on the trip.
Dr. Eleanor
Is it okay for you to go on the trip?
Maria
Yes, I want to go.
Dr. Marvin
Okay, then you can make it happen.
Dr. Eleanor
You can make it happen. And we’ll all send energy for you to go on your trip.
Maria
Thank you.
Dr. Eleanor
Everybody will be seeing Maria get healthy and come back and tell us how long is the trip?
Maria
A week.
Dr. Eleanor
Then you’ll miss next Thursday if I’m fine, yes.
Dr. Marvin
Where are you leaving from? And where is the trip going to?
Maria
I’m going to see the Mayan Empire, so I’m going to Mexico. I’m stopping in Mexico. When we go to Belize, I’m going to see newly discovered ruins. It’s like the biggest.
Dr. Marvin
Caribbean trip. Okay, so you should be drinking juices also vitamin C juices, orange juice. And if you’re marginal when it arrives to go, just imagine you’re going to be going on a trip where you’re going to be in the sun, and you’re going to be getting a lot of sun energy, and you’re going to be getting a lot of tropical fruit, and all that’s going to heal you.
Maria
Thank you.
Dr. Marvin
But not too much vodka with the fruit.
Maria
No.
Dr. Marvin
It’s very easy to get the vodka with the fruit juice.
Dr. Eleanor
We’re all going to be sending healing energy your way.
Dr. Marvin
Now. We can picture where you’re going. And if anyone is jealous, release the jealousy.
Maria
Thank you very much. Thank you.
Dr. Eleanor
You’re welcome.
Elizabeth
Happy birthday.
Maria
Not yet.
Elizabeth
Well, it’s coming.
Dr. Eleanor
Marvin’s birthday is tomorrow.
Elizabeth
Happy birthday.
Dr. Marvin
The Ides of March, Caesar’s last day.
Dr. Eleanor
Is that right?
Dr. Marvin
Yes. Caesar was assassinated on March 15.
Dr. Eleanor
In the next few minutes, take inventory of which World you primarily focus on. Is that by choice or unconsciousness? Which World guides your daily activities? If any of you have any insights, feel free to share them.
Dr. Marvin
I have another question also, a corollary to that is since I believe, we believe that the ultimate answer is connecting to spirit, is ask your question how you connect with spirit.
Kathryn
I am mostly mental. Then follows physical and emotional, and that gets kind of all… And then for spiritual, that’s when I am retraining myself, as far as what was shared earlier, that I am moving more and more into being a new person. And it’s like being a child and not knowing what to do and who my parents are giving me the right guidance.
Dr. Eleanor
Be a free child.
Kathryn
Yeah, I get that. And it’s just the environment around me is so restrictive because that’s just not acceptable. But there is something I offer. It’s a gift. And I invite people to wiggle their toes and giggle, and it’s just my gift. I love it. So I think that I want to be able to be more aware of where I’m at and to pause and also to work towards victory, to pause where I’m at or go off in a corner or something and just get recentered and go into the spirit. And that involves breathing.
Dr. Eleanor
Excellent.
Dr. Marvin
So, did you think that the tapping?
Kathryn
Oh, yes, the EFT thing.
Dr. Marvin
There is a video called Tapping Play.
Dr. Eleanor
It’s www.tappingplay.com. Tappingplay.com. It’s written for children, and it’s musical.
Dr. Marvin
Ready. And I am free. Being me, I’m a happy child. That’s what you do. And you can’t help but laugh. See, you’re all smiling and laughing. So, when you smile and laugh, and you’re tapping the energy points, you’re automatically in spirit.
Kathryn
Excellent. Thank you. That sounds like the perfect thing where I’m at because I get so darn serious and overwhelmed by the shoulda, coulda, would have, and must.
Dr. Eleanor
Right?
Dr. Marvin
And if you have a mirror when you do it, it’s even more.
Dr. Eleanor
Full.
Kathryn
There is a full-length mirror outside my door here. And then I have a mirror on the wall. What was that?
Suzanne
Hi, everybody. Thank you. For me, I find that it’s so easy when I’m with a client to go in that space that is really so supportive for them in that spiritual realm and helping with their emotions and what have you. But when I’m on my own, it’s all mental.
Dr. Eleanor
So, have you considered how to transform it?
Suzanne
It just came up. Today is the way to do it. So, thank you for that. Yeah.
Dr. Eleanor
Okay. When you’re with your clients, begin to pay attention to the energy at the core of yourself. Then, recreate that when you’re alone and treat yourself as your own client.
Elizabeth
Okay. Thank you.
Dr. Eleanor
Use your gifts for yourself, not just for your clients.
Elizabeth
Thank you. Your support has been invaluable, so thank you so much for all that you’re doing.
Dr. Eleanor
Thank you. Oh, you’re welcome. Elizabeth.
Elizabeth
I have a question about the worlds. I haven’t studied them as much as I would like to, but I seem to hang out in the World of symbols almost all the time. And I wonder which World that is because I know that I contemplate beauty and nature, and I do a lot of writing and praying.
Everything’s a prayer. But, yeah, I mean, I have a lot of physical challenges, right? I’m disciplined, but I’m not sure which World I hang out in the most.
Dr. Eleanor
Well, why don’t you make that your assignment for the next week?
Elizabeth
Okay. There must be a description of the World on your…
Dr. Eleanor
Yeah. The Mental World is the World of reality, the World in which you function day to day. It has electronics, furnishings, and things that we need to do. It’s the World in which we live to function day to day.
The Spiritual World is the World where we know ourselves, we know who we are, and we hold on to that no matter what anybody tells us. And if the people we’re with don’t acknowledge that part of us, we feel hurt. And it’s hard from the spiritual realm to talk about emotions. So, if you are hurt and you become emotionally reactive, then you’re in a mental, emotional world.
Once you transform in the Emotional World, reactivity becomes a part of the spiritual dimension, and it’s like a moving wave. The Physical World is the World of your body. We have partial conscious control over it. But the Mental and Physical Worlds relate to each other. So, how you think about your health can influence your actual health.
While we have very limited conscious control over certain body functions, we do control our environment, and that influences our body. What you eat, what you drink, where you eat, and your environment when you’re eating are all part of how your physical body is impacted by the mental and Spiritual Worlds. So, you might want to pray over your food. Make sure it’s the right frequency for yourself. Is that helpful?
Elizabeth
Oh, very. Thank you. Thank you.
Dr. Eleanor
Let’s do a final attunement.
Find a comfortable place where you can be internal, breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth, settling into the core of yourself, and allowing the breath to do its own thing. No intervening on how you breathe, but let whatever the air coming into you is, let that air, that inhalation be a cleansing one.
Feel the inhale as the divine breathes you. Pay attention only to the words “the divine breathes me.” Let that divine energy in your breath cleanse anything that is not aligned with you out of your energetic field.
From this spiritual place of alignment, do a quick assessment of what in your life most aligns with you.
· Are there people you align with?
· Are there ideas you align with? Are there feelings you align with?
· And from this place here, what do you know now?
· And is there anything else you know now?
Take a deep inhalation, and as you release it, recognize that you’re free. You’re free to choose. You’re free to be. And with this freedom, what would you like to have happen? And how would you like to spend this freedom during your day to day? And is there anything else? And with all of this, what do you know?
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